Shouldn’t church leaders be able to discern right from wrong pretty well?
I mean, they bend over backwards to make you think they’re representatives of Jesus.
Yet when Covid hit they all panicked and said the opposite of what we hoped they would say.
They caved into fear and became even more entrenched by the almighty 501c3 status.
IMO Jesus would cringe at 501c3.
Rough roads ahead for ALL churches “leaders”.
I think this was a true test by God to seperate the wheat from the chaff.
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We are so lucky,we are in the middel of naci Germany,but we attend a Croatian church,no masks,nothing,we are werry lucky with our preasts
Thank goodness I do know church leaders that did not cave and are not 501c3 churches. :)
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One would think discernment would be important as a pastor, church leader, faith healer (whatever they call themselves these days), BUT it appears the only thing most churches value is $$$$. Jesus didn't build mega churches on every corner, didn't pay disciples 6 figures $$$ a year salary, and to my knowledge, most died poor. Jesus said "freely you've received, freely give." Got news for all of them. "To whom more was given, more will be expected."
Must be pretty important because this stern warning was in 3 gospels.
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i learned about the 501c3 church status thing a few years back... i vowed, yes vowed to myself i would never ever go to a 501c3 church.. nope, never will.
Same here
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Yes they are but how many are honestly that brainwashed.
I do know a few that use the church for good, but not many.🙏
When a mid sized chuch in a community of less than 200k ppl is siting on over 600k at the end of the year they sure as hell are not using that money to help the poor.
Just as bad are the other charities that "claim" to do humanitarian projects that really only siphon off money playing on ppls emotions and pocket the money.
Let's track the millions right now going to RED CROSS!
Let's track the billions with a "b" that B1d3n is "supposedly" sending to Ukraine.
We know where that money is really going!
Follow the money Doq!
We are going to need not only checks on humanitarian money going forward but also to find ppl that CAN NOT be corrupted to oversee them. 😇🎯
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I have a lot of personal thoughts on this, but I am not sure how to express them without throwing myself and my weaknesses under the same bus. But it is disheartening that I feel like I am more informed than my preacher, and if he knows, why isn’t he talking about it?
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The Pastor of the Church I attend is very much awake to what is going on. He doesn't talk about it straight on but knowing he is awake, I hear it in his messages because I am hearing with different ears. We all know this is biblical and Jesus is coming soon. He did speak about Ukraine last Sunday and said that you can't believe what you see and that we don't really know what the truth is because we have been lied to so much. Planting the seed. In the last 3 yrs since I have attended, he never has mentioned money. They will pass the plate if you'd like to give you can.
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I read something a few years back that they threatened their 5013c status if they had politics in the pulpit..... most complied
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But I think that's what he's saying....a differentiating of the wheat and the chaff/tares. Pastors that caved to the political agenda promoting fear....vs...those that did not. It sounds like you are one that did not! Which is awesome!
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Yes, especially the Mega churches. Especially the ones who were paid to push the jab.
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So sad, but so true. We tend to forget that when Jesus spoke of "his church" he wasn't referring to a building, but rather his chosen followers, his born again children.
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I am going to start asking some questions and not looking to offend. Raised Catholic, Alterboy, Sunday Church throughout childhood. However still don't know much about the bible. Started questioning the Church when out of the blue they made an exemption to eat meat on a particular date. Grew up thinking I would burn in hell if the don't eat meat rule was broken. Gave me the opportunity to have a more personal connection.
Anyway my question is Did Jesus refer to his followers as children as you stated above? Trying to understand the hierarchy
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Thank You Doc!!! My thoughts exactly!! My woke pastor encouraged Masks and vaccines. He asked the flock to stand for Joe Bidens win without question. and then sat back and watched as our members started dying one by one. He calls out Q followers as a cult while looking at me. I could have left and found a new church family🤔But I will stay till the end.
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Went to a private Baptist school owned by our church. As a teenager, when my Step Father and Mother were having Marital trouble (He was physically beating her), my Step Father suggested counseling through the church. They did. My Mother was told to be a more submissive Wife. She was. Until her ribs were broken and she finally left. Fast forward to adulthood. I was looking to get closer to God. Returned to same church under different pastor. The son in law of previous pastor. I became ill due to an dental infection that became septic. I had no insurance, tried to tough it out. I ended up passing out face first on concrete, landing me in Critical Care Unit. While I was unconscious, I was put on emergency state insurance to cover hospitals bills. I'm not proud of this. I returned to church on Easter. Pastor preached on how we should not rely on government hand outs. Looked right at me from the pulpit. Come to find out, they are 501c3. Back then, and now. They are buying a 2nd church.
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Exactly and well said. GOD is going to weed them all out. One by one, they will either rise up for GOD and JESUS or they will fall and wither away. N.C.S.W.I.C.
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totally agree. i left my church and bible study months ago because they were requiring the mask and vaxx to attend. i finally found a church that had no restrictions even in this harsh and longer lasting california mandate climate. They indeed had space set aside for those who wanted to remain separate and masked, but nothing was ever mandatory. you had full choice and nobody was made to feel shame either way. the pastors words were always of freedom and loving eveyone mo matter what their personal choices were. .. in the midst of darkness i found freedom. in fact, my vaxxed friend and i attended together. 🙏
It was also a test to people who claim they follow Jesus and attend church faithfully. Easter is a celebration of Christ's overcoming death but some of the most fearful, traumatized, close-minded people I witnessed were church goers. Many churches were ripped apart because of 'mask protocols'. Yes, our faith was definitely tested over Covid.
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I said from the beginning that church leaders could end the lockdown in a matter of days by flinging their doors open & welcome their people with open arms. But they didn't. They kept services online & when they allowed in person services they required masks. Church leaders were the worst of all this. I'm sickened by their behavior. One who was a friend loudly screamed for people to get the shot. His wife put up a post wearing a tshirt that said "vaccinated & caffeinated" They care only for $$$. Shameful
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I was a cradle catholic up until a couple years ago when we just said the same things and did the same gestures like being programmed at church every sunday, then last easter we got turned away from mass because they were at their "capacity limit" on government restricting more than should be there. The priests let God's children down over and over during "covid" up till now. I am blown away and shocked at the Pope's and other religious orders corrupt and evil agendas they hid for years. God is everywhere and i pray to him daily.
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My church stayed opened & never shut its doors along with a few more sister churches across the nation & some hv heavy penalties that are being fought in court.
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Excellent post Doq!
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Start with the Mormons. Bet they sre into some sick shite
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I was in the Orthodox Church few times during the covid - crowded and 90% without the masks.
Today the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople Bartholomew I is in Poland praying for peace...
Interesting timing...
