Orion Nebula...the sword

Have you ever been in a church service with an "open heaven"?
Have you ever seen an angel?

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It's not about our reaching up.... 3 feet or so.
It's about HIM coming to meet us - where we are.

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Yes... in answer to your question.
I have - both.

While the angel was amazing... and attending to someone who needed them....

The open heaven services are what I long for.
When God comes down to us.. and meets us in our spirits and answers questions and gives us solutions to problems... and all of it... right where we are.

In response Kim Runner to her Publication

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