About that 4 yrs - might be wishful thinking. Fact is we've been prepped for both -
1) something happening now or soon and
2) it's going to be a tough 4 yrs.
So, we have a great misinformation duo. We don't know and baddies don't know which of the two is the real deal. No sleep for [them].
As for fearless Pipe Hitters, talking to one could be quite the adventure. 😊