Placebo controlled trials. Yes, that is what is needed. Is it a coincidence that the measles deaths are in a population with low vaccine uptake? (potential placebo group) And now people are confused because we are mixing traditional vaccines with new products that are not the same thing and everyone scrambling to either cover something up or try and make it impossible for what American voters asked RFK to do. He is trying and I hope he has a good team. I like that he did not comment after his visit with the family that lost someone. This suggests to me he is being thoughtful and will consider all avenues for investigation.