over time things will change but at this time. one thing at a time. december is not jesus birthday anyway it is a s-t- ic holiday? so i celebrate it for Jesus' birth himself and the tree representing life and beauty of life. we can create our image of beauty despite those teaching esp since i dont follow any specific religion. my own with God. it was never a gift fiving time of non necessities in our family, if you consider underwear . nothing special.. so i guess i look at christmas a little differently.