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Q, patriot, holistic healer for humans and dogs. Certified in dogs. I'll speak my mind no matter what. Be nice or get lost.
Is there any nurses or drs here? I need to ask a question about a certain test done...THANKS!
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I am ! please ask
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Q, patriot, holistic healer for humans and dogs. Certified in dogs. I'll speak my mind no matter what. Be nice or get lost.
oh ok...please read entire thread. alot going on and a screenshot of the lab results. She's been on ivermectin...and a whole lot more. ALL the tests she's had and still its a MAYBE there is cancer cells. this is from one test. shes had 2 sonograms, xrays from head to toe, 2 needle aspirations etc...the antibiotics make lump disappear (swollen lymph node in neck only). TUMORS don't disappear with antibiotics. its a bad bacterial infection...from God knows what....ALL TESTS WERE CLEAR. All showed infection only. The lab test is IFFY. IMO no cancer. these drs think I am stupid.
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I´m sorry but I don´t quite understand your post. Who are we talking about ? Wich symptoms / "problems" ? all these tests because of what ?antibiotics and Ivermectine for what ? Can you try to explain please ?
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Q, patriot, holistic healer for humans and dogs. Certified in dogs. I'll speak my mind no matter what. Be nice or get lost.
PLEASE READ ENTIRE THREAD..its all explained...but My dog has been sick for 2 months..numerous tests..no findings....only infection. 2 needle aspirates..inconclusive. Vet wants to say its cancer...with NO PROOF. swollen/infected lymph node goes completely away WHILE on antibiotics. NO LUMP! comes back a week later after off of them. Definitely a bacterial infection. they are trying to say its cancer. IMO it is NOT cancer.
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I have now read it and understand what you mean. I´m a (anesthesia ) nurse and I undertand from the rapport they are talking both about inflammation/infection but " squamous cell proliferation" normally refers to skin cancer (at early stage?), sorry. But that´s why maybe he reacts to the antibiotics (against the infection) and if it comes back maybe he needs to continue with the antiobiotics. But....the rapport mentions the squamous cell as well who need to be looked at. But it´s seems like they are not sure about it that why they want a biopsy (to see if it´s malign and if so where it´s come from ). I´m not sure my answer can help you but I hope and will pray that you will be receive good news. I can ask a doctor tomorrow if I can finde one who has time and the expertise. 🙏🙏🙏
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Q, patriot, holistic healer for humans and dogs. Certified in dogs. I'll speak my mind no matter what. Be nice or get lost.
Thank you so much. that helped some
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I just remember that my friends husband is a doctor .I have sent it to him. He will look at it and I will come back with his answer. Need to go to bed now (late in Europe ...for me to go to work early ) and I will open my mail tomorrow morning before I go to work; hope I will finde his answer.
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Q, patriot, holistic healer for humans and dogs. Certified in dogs. I'll speak my mind no matter what. Be nice or get lost.
spoke to a 22 yr vet and he said that test does not show cancer. bith aspirations are not showing anything so most likely not cancer. just infection
I got the answer from my friends husband: "Fluid has been sucked out, which is characterized by infectious changes and bacteria have been seen and this fits with the story. However, there is also a reaction in squamous epithelial cells, and if they come from the skin, well-differentiated skin cell cancer cannot be ruled out, although it is certainly most likely that the squamous epithelial changes are also a reaction to infection. Another possibility, if it comes from the subcutis, is that inflammation or cancer in the thyroid has triggered the squamous epithelial changes. Therefore, a real biopsy is recommended so that the tissue structures can be seen.
The report ends with "If there are....." so with the caveat that something important is missing, a biopsy must be needed - and that seems perfectly reasonable on the story alone.
Also think maybe ear nose throat assessment could be reasonable and maybe thyroid scintigraphy / ultrasound".
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Q, patriot, holistic healer for humans and dogs. Certified in dogs. I'll speak my mind no matter what. Be nice or get lost.
I did check in her mouth and i did not see anything red or inflamed. also her eyes are good. her brk is normal. at first she was hoarse but not anymore. she's just a normal dog now...zero symptoms of anything. Lump completely gone with antibiotics. The vets are stumped on this and what caused it. Someone summed it up earlier on exactly what was said today at the vets. they were over the target on it...
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Q, patriot, holistic healer for humans and dogs. Certified in dogs. I'll speak my mind no matter what. Be nice or get lost.
she had 2 sonograms. one on thyroid by that stupid vet (a female vet) and another on her organs..liver, spleen etc etc....ALL CLEAR. x-rays entire body. showed infection in the intestine and a slightly enlarged spleen and liver ....most likely due to the infection. we have not xrayed her again since and its been 2 months. its not lymphoma..she would be dead by now. or in other lymph nodes. it isnt thyroid..she doesnt have the symptoms. in fact she has NO symptoms now...just the inflammation of the lymph node. and i cannot find a single article that states there would be infection in lymph node with thyroid cancer. its not fitting. since i didnt see what that stupid vet did..i only have a pic of where she shaved her to do a sonogram.
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Q, patriot, holistic healer for humans and dogs. Certified in dogs. I'll speak my mind no matter what. Be nice or get lost.
that stupid vet claimed there was a mass on the thyroid. this aspiration test says no sign of thyroid. the vet didn't even know where the thyroid was located apparently..i dont know...Honestly..i think that vet flat out lied to me to my face. Seen it in her eyes. SMH. She needs to go back and learn anatomy or how to lie better.
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Q, patriot, holistic healer for humans and dogs. Certified in dogs. I'll speak my mind no matter what. Be nice or get lost.
if there are......any questions you have to contact the lab folks. it was irrelevant that went over to the next page...sorry. and BTW this absolutely has ZERO to do with the thyroid. that stupid vet that did this test didn't know a thing about what she was talking about. its been lymph node all along..and only one on the left side. no other lymph nodes affected..my vet today said it isn't cancer. there is ZERO proof of cancer. he said with 2 aspirations that are basically inconclusive...that pretty much rules out cancer. she is clinically in great shape with no other symptoms at all. ONLY the swollen/infected lymph node. she is too old for a biopsy.